Eye brows around doors and hatches?

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  • #4090
    metric_pinecone
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    There has been a lot of said on this forum about preventing leaks. It seems some are lucky (or skilled builders) and don’t have many issues. I haven’t been one. After quite a bit of trial and error, I’ve got it totally water proof except when driving highway speeds in the rain when water pushes in in places where the door isn’t totally flush with camper body (see photos). I’m thinking about added really tiny “eye brows” around the forward and top edge of the doors, side compartment, and hatch back.

    Is this crazy? Has anyone experimented with anything similar? Or is there another solution I should consider?

     

     

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    #21623348
    david2.384
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    I have the same issue. Did anything work? I was thinking about trying some weather stripping on the outside.

     

    David

    #21625536
    RowingBoatmanSteve
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    In my experience the door seal material supplied in the kit was too thick and not suitable for the application. It created an uneven closure of the doors, heavily compressing the material at the hinge side and distorting the ply profile around the outer perimeter of the openings.

    For the ICC doors:

    My solution was to source an alternative material, so I took a visit to my local hardware store to look for alternatives.

    This self adhesive rubber strip compresses sufficiently without distorting the closure of the ICC doors. The ribbed profile prevents water passing the seal.

    #21625549
    RowingBoatmanSteve
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    In addition to the smaller rubber seal, I replaced the supplied door hardware (as seen above) with a flush stainless compression latch. Apart from having a lower profile and sleeker look, the latch compresses the door on closing …

    These latches turn to engage the internal tongue with the camper body, then compress down about 3mm as the latch is laid flat. I used them for both ICC doors as well as for the galley hatch. They are also lockable.

    #21625595
    RowingBoatmanSteve
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    For the Teardrop doors:

    I chose a slightly different seal profile to the ICC doors…

    #21625619
    RowingBoatmanSteve
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    The lower profile seal (compared to the kit supplied foam) seals well, without distorting the ply doors…

     

    #21625622
    RowingBoatmanSteve
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    The packaging shows the dimensions of the foam profile…

    On a side note, during the build process I added a layer of fiber to the internal surface to stiffen the finished door. This stiffening has also helped to keep the doors leakproof…

    #21625632
    RowingBoatmanSteve
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    This photo show the layup of (Basalt) fiber internally during the shell construction stage to stiffen the doors (my upgrade). The unwetted center section is me saving resin on the window cutouts!…

    #21625642
    RowingBoatmanSteve
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    The finished door with stiffening provided by the additional basalt fiber layer. (Could alternatively be fiberglass/carbon etc). I was able to omit the addition of the internal webbing “grab handle” as suggested in the manual.

    #21625666
    RowingBoatmanSteve
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    The final piece in the “leakproof puzzle” for me was to add a strip on neoprene foam to the underside of the galley hatch, to match with the rubber gasket on the camper edge below. This can be seen in the picture above. I’m sure each build is different, but on my camper the rear seal didn’t make positive contact with the lid above, allowing dust and water to enter on highway runs…

    #21625681
    RowingBoatmanSteve
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    …so this addition solved the problem (top of the photo). The neoprene seal running the full width of the lid is approx 3mm in thickness.  Matching the actual profile of the gasket below and transferring it to the lid above was a challenge. I laid the self adhesive neoprene seal on the lower gasket, sticky side up and held in place with the occasional piece of temporary tape across it. The lid was then lowered down onto the seal.

    I found the best way to check if the seals were in fact touching was to place a piece of paper between the seals and close the camper lid. The paper was either captured by the seal (success), or able to be slid out (not compressed enough).

    #22138452
    fischautotechgarten
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    Those are fantastic suggestions! Thank you for taking the time to share them.

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